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[jacksaroe]

I know someone involved in this, and am concerned about it. It seems like a scam to me, but I can't really prove it. Does anyone know anything about this company? ...or the CEO, Chad Schapiro? I'm just looking for some concrete evidence of what is going on here. Anyone have any insight?

[jacksaroe]

woops, i meant www.ourgv.com

[Ekid]

Checking it out:

[Ekid]

Step one:

Sent the info to Bob to see if he had anything on file:

His reply:

The name sounds familiar, but he's never been on the WWSN. I looked at his site and his photo - doesn't ring any bells for me. Sorry!

Bob

[Ekid]

http://p2.hostingprod.com/@worldwidescam.com//nexgen.htm

[Ekid]

"Beware of Bigsmart Bigwigs telling you that bigsmart is no good and then they tell you to spend 600$ to get a power pak from a new company that is exactly the same it is called Nexgen3000. This is taking place in Texas....Look out for Darrin Epps or Chad Schapiro they will rob you blind so they can make a big check...."

[Abe]

This looks like a lot of fluff and hype to me. They tell you absolutely NOTHING about the company or the management except that Ourgv.com has a matrix compensation plan which is short hand for a pyramid scheme. GV does seem to be associated some type of training or mentoring program called A2Success.com but you have to join before you are provided any information in it like the cost etc.

Schapiro claims that "he growing up in the Midwest, learned the value of hard work and integrity at a young age. Graduating from a Big Ten University with several business degrees." But one would think a person with several degrees would be proud enough to reveal what the degrees were in and the name of the college.

"Chad Schapiro immediately began to put his talents to work running businesses. Fine tuning his expertise in human relations, and generating profits, "Chad Schapiro helped to create the fastest growing privately held company in the United States of America within 5 short years." Surely he would be proud enough of an accomplishment like that to give the name of that company.

Chad Schapiro: "OurGV.Org is basically another sister company that was designed to focus on our support of the world’s charities. It’s where we evaluate charities for inclusion to our charity program, and do various things to help the PR and awareness for the best charities in the world today." Where the heck has this guy been? There are tons of places on the net that rates charities if he would take a look.

http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-charities

http://nonprofit.about.com/od/legalresources/

http://www.chadschapiro.org/

"The goal is to help people all over the world get the research they need to decide which charities they want to support."
See above and why would an organization with the above goal feel the need to hide behind a proxy?

They do have a mall similiar to Green Zapp but instead of using their own funny money they use rewards.

Anyone with a website could link to these sites in his mall

http://www.ourgv.com/corporate/shopping/ShopMall.asp?SI=3&SBI=0

Too much puffery and not enough substance. I'll have to give this one a two thumbs down until it goes ^ ^ up.

[jacksaroe]

thanks everyone. I don't understand how these people can get away with something like this, especially when the FTC has busted similar schemes in the past. Is there anything the average Joe like myself can do to expose this guy? It seems like he is covering up this huge scam by advertising giving to the world's charities, yet there is no evidence giving. It looks like giving to charity is a tool to lure people into selling "internet shopping"

by the way, Ekid, where does a link like that come from? I've seen that page on the web too, and its kind of just sitting out there in the middle of the net, no links to or from. There's some strangeness going on out there. This company is supposedly backed by the BBB, however the BBB won't release any info on the company anyway, so what the hell is the point of the BBB.

[Ekid]

The link...its an old cached page from Bob Burtis's older site of the main page for the WWSN.
I thought Chad's name sounded familiar: as from these email you can see another opportunity Good Ol' Chad was involved with

............................................................................................

From: Leela Fireside <Leela.Fireside@oag.state.tx.us>
To: Bob Burtis
Date: May 17 2001 - 3:38pm


Dear Mr. Burtis:
Thank you very much for continuing to keep me posted with this type of information.
Sincerely,


Leela R. Fireside
Assistant Attorney General
Consumer Protection Division
Texas Attorney General's Office
P.O. Box 12548
Austin, Texas 78711-2548
tel: (512) 475-4233
fax: (512) 473-8301
e-mail: leela.fireside@oag.state.tx.us

>>> Robert Burtis <XXXXXXX.net> 05/17/01 12:52PM >>>
I received this e-mail today regarding NexGen3000. We all recognize
"Chad Shapiro"...

There just ain't no stopping these guys, is there?!?

Meanwhile, BigSmart continues to pro-rate nearly all of the FTC
refunds down to NOTHING.

-------------------------------------------

It looks like they are now surfing for resumes and present it like a
real
job. I had a feeling that it was a pyramid scheme but had to dig
deep.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Schapiro" <nexgen@buzz-online.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 12:54 PM
Subject: Prospective resume


<Name Removed>,

You have been pre-selected based on your background and experience.

Global Connections is a marketing arm for Nexgen3000.com. We would
like to invite you to investigate our company thoroughly.

We want to congratulate you on taking the next step toward a rewarding
and profitable career. The more you learn about our company the more you will like what you see. We would like to send you some information to look at that will give you a better feel for what we do.

Please send an e-mail to totalteam-nexgen@zibgib.com with the words
"More Info" as the subject and I will give you this information.

<Name Removed>, we look for 3 things in our new Associates.


#1. People that are teachable and trainable with the ability to follow
through unsupervised.
#2.We look for self-sufficient, confident, entrepreneurial-minded
individuals who can make decisions independently.
#3.We are looking for people who can communicate effectively with
others.

Now don't forget to send that email to totalteam-nexgen@zibgib.com.

Thank you,

Chad Schapiro
Executive
Global Connections

[Abe]

[jacksaroe]

http://www.centraltx.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bid=34387

I called the number..."I'm sorry, but this is not a working number"....what a joke.

they are members with the online BBB too. Doesn't seem to really matter much to me. Its simply one scam covering up with another scam....rediculous.

[boomer]

[kduvall]

Yes OurGV is very busy marketing their Two Tiered Marketing System by which they recruit members and have them pay for coaching, training on how to get more members, etc, and then share in revenues (web hosting, web site development, and any shopping members do). It's rather expensive about $2,500 for a "franchise" and then tons of additional funds for coaching, leads, training, etc. Most people are under some delusion that they will make $500K in 5 years, and that they can retire as rich people.
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[stew perry]

How do I reach jacksaroe, who posted 4/4/06. I was sent his email in response to my email about OurGV as a possible scam (I have evidence) but I don't know how to contact him.

This is my first time.

Stew Perry
s.perry@mchsi.com

Tbank you.

[Abe]

Send this person a PM, Stew. If he has clicked to have alerts sent for new messages he will probably reply or check his profile to see if he listed an e-mail link.
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[exmediahack]

I'll fill in the blanks.

We both went to college at Wisconsin (a Big Ten school), in Madison. In 1993, I worked at a bar across the street from Chad, where he was a bartender. After shift would end, we'd often meet up - in large groups - and go to afterbars. He was a sharp kid from Minnesota.

He left the bar business - we didn't know why - and then came back a year later with a new black BMW and he always had $100 bills. We didn't peg him to be a drug dealer. Yet one friend of mine (from class) came to me one day and with the usual "hey, come to this interview thingy"...and there was Chad, leading this "thingy" called Equinox.

Long story short. Chad was like my long lost buddy and, six weeks later, I'm out about $3,500 to become a "distributor". He was such a salesman -- it was like "Boiler Room".

It was an expensive lesson for me but it did teach me plenty about right and wrong.

What I am disappointed is that Chad hasn't put his sales and leadership skills into proper use. He really could be a dominant CEO for a top-tier company -- he is that dynamic. Instead, he is using his talents to scam the lower-class and the young out of their savings (and Grandma's, too).

Be careful.

That being said. If I ever come across Mr. Schapiro on the street, I will punch him right in the nose and will, gladly, pay the hospital bill.

[pokey]

tell me this then, if it is a scam how come you can sign up for absolutely free granite you can buy markating tools and classes but if your smart enough you dont need them...im a member of ourgv.com myself and i didn't pay 200 or 500 or 2000. you can buy pagages like that ...the only cost is you have to pay for your muti millon dollor website which cost 30 monthly...you can't expect to get anything for nothing...if you want to start you own real buisness if will costs you hundreds of thousands of dollors....if anyone has any PROFF that it is a scam please let me know

Admin Edit:
Email address altered to prevent this poster from being spammed

*********@rocketmail.com

[pokey]

besides maybe 99.99999 percent of at home business's are a scam...well theres got to be one real one right?...maybe this is it..finally...im paying only 30 a month and without moving a finger or doing anything im making 60 a month just from profit sharing

[Abe]

[pokey]

The only bad things i can find about ourgv.com are on this one " 1 " page...i've tried finding bad things about him and the company...but all i could find were only good things and pictures of him "handing big checks to charity.

[Abe]

[pokey]

[Abe]

Go back to page one and and do some reading everything here can be proven. Do a Google search for Chad Scharpio with anyone of these NSA---> Equinox---> Jewelway---> Bigsmart---> NexGen3000 and add scam in the search. See post exmediahack made before you came on line.

Want to see a picture of Chad?


Our Global Vision

http://revver.com/video/1033433/our-global-vision/

Why would the owner of a legitimate business be using a proxy and on this site, remove the response option? Afraid of someone blowing the whistle on him?

The owner of this video has disabled video responses

The owner of this video has disabled comments

http://www.zChad.com the secret law of attraction, marketing strategies, marketing tactics. Home business, business opportunities, mlm opportunity, network marketing business, make money, get rich, ...

It is nothing more than a headhunter site for a recruiting pyramid scheme!

Ask him why he is pimping another MLMer Bill Farley's juice scheme in his zChad.com link above as a product? And what led you to believe that it was free?

Yes OurGV is very busy marketing their Two Tiered Marketing System by which they recruit members and have them pay for coaching, training on how to get more members, etc, and then share in revenues (web hosting, web site development, and any shopping members do). It's rather expensive about $2,500 for a "franchise" and then tons of additional funds for coaching, leads, training, etc. Most people are under some delusion that they will make $500K in 5 years, and that they can retire as rich people.

And I'd bet that they aren't licensed in any of the 26 states that require a "Franchise" to be registered in order to make an offer either.
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[rhinostat]

Man oh man, this is some pretty ridiculous stuff I see here. I dont think I have anywhere near the amount of investigative ability that these people are supposed to have who are saying and writing all this negative stuff, and it took me all of 5 minutes to find all this positive stuff.

By the way, the CEO Chad Schapiro of this company OurGV.Com started this business BECAUSE of all the problems he dealt with trying to build a legitimate business in other companies. Makes sense to me that if you worked hard in several businesses that all turned out to have not so great people at the top, if you were really sincere about what you did, the right thing to do would be to put together a great company yourself, to make sure it was done right. Sure looks like that is what they did to me. Here is what I found doing a few quick searches myself, curious as to why all these negative posters who keep flashing a "Carbon Copy Response" from a letter sent to the Attorney General's Office, very lame anyone can create such a thing. In checking with the Attorney General's Office personally there are ZERO issues involving Chad Schapiro, he turns up 100% Clean. Pretty amazing after running a business for Five Years if you asked me.

Anyways, here is a list of charities that have received money and links keep in mind I found this stuff in 5 minutes, it is my understanding that there a tons of checks that go out to nonprofit organizations every week and month. How can that possibly be a bad thing? It looks to me like this CEO Chad Schapiro might be the one business person out there we should be saying good stuff about. That's the annoying thing about the internet, anyone can say anything about anyone or anything without any repercussions whatsoever.


the name of the Nonprofit is "Youth Reality Check", looks like they gave $500 there is a video of it too http://www.cuerorecord.com/articles/2008/02/06/news/news4.txt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w7q4Yd-6DA

Transformation in San Antonio, TX looks like another $500 check
http://www.eworldwire.com/pressrelease/18436

Agape Pregnancy Center in San Antonio, TX another $500 Check I think
http://www.eworldwire.com/pressrelease/18503

IAAP Cornhusker Chapter looks like a $1000 Gift
http://www.prfree.com/index.php?cur=index&action=preview&id=87252

SCOPE International another $500 Check
http://www.zibb.com/article/4227529/OurGVRewards+CEO+Chad+Schapiro+And+President+W.J.+Vincent+II+Fund+Non-Profit+Scope+Victoria+Ltd+-?expired=3258186

There is more they keep adding and updating here on their site
http://www.ourgv.com/Business/AboutUsNews.asp

They seem to be doing some pretty amazing stuff to me. My gut reaction when I saw this stuff was oh no, just another company, and it was shocking to me that I found so much overwhelmingly positive stuff so easily. Maybe somebody here has a personal vendetta or something, I dunno, I understand how it can be hard to believe there is a real legitimate company out there, but if they were doing something wrong after 5 years I think you would know about it by now. Instead it looks like they are doing things incredibly right.

They have a Toolbar Program that pays nonprofits TEN TIMES more money than the one that was just featured on Oprah not too long ago..Ten Times the Money, that is AMAZING! Everything I see about the company shows they don't make income claims, they make sure people understand it takes hard work, and they seem to operate the same way companies like Amazon.Com etc. operate. The fact you can start for FREE seems to be lost on everyone here, if you are doing something wrong how can you give a Free Option, nobody would ever upgrade to a paid option.

Far as I am concerned this is the one legitimate company out there, I am happily shopping, and might become a part of the business. Without a doubt this CEO Chad Schapiro appears to be a person to be admired, not lamely trashed because when he was young he worked in a business that had lousy ownership.

Thumbs up from me for now, will let you know if something changes.
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[rhinostat]

Wow, look at all the misinformation here. That Zchad link doesn't even exist, I wonder if it ever did? And what is this talk about "Franchise" I did not see anything discussing Franchising. It is a 2 tiered Affiliate Program like the one Amazon.Com runs. Far as I know there isn't any kind of crazy licensing necessary for that.

Why say things like that unnecessarily, I thought this was an honest site that sought to provide "Truth" so people could make better decisions about businesses. Beginning to doubt the sincerity of the people posting here.

I did not see any references to OurGV CEO Chad Schapiro working with any juice deal. Perhaps this is all a mistake, maybe somebody here is confused or something. Looks like they have an entire website dedicated to their goal of helping nonprofits worldwide though.

http://www.ourgveffect.com
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